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Showing posts with label Low Winter Sun. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Low Winter Sun. Show all posts

10/11/13

View Logs: Low Winter Sun S1 Finale

Episodes 9: Ann Arbor
Episode 10: Surrender

Unlike the Breaking Bad finale view log this one is going to be very short because I'm pissed.  Honestly I haven't been this mad since The Killing's finale.  But in many ways this finale is worse than The Killing's Season 3 finale because atleast with The Killing it utilized all the elements it established earlier in the show.  Episode 9 of the 2 parter finale was just awful.  I mean awful.

10/9/13

View Logs: Low Winter Sun S1 Episode 8

Episode Title: Revelations

So Episode 7 screwed up Geddes' character... but interestingly enough, episode 8 was actually quite good.  Honestly, everything was quite solid here and Geddes acceptance of corruption seemed a little more natural in this episode than the last.  Strangely enough, this episode almost felt like it should have been a part of episode 7.  It just seems like the writers thought they had too little material to work with so they try to fill up the series as much as they can with just filler side plots and scenes that either contradict character (to milk some drama out of the show) or don't develop them at all.

This episode actually had none of that.  I was even a little bit interested in Callis and his girlfriend's side plot for the first time since like... ever.

I'll tell you what's changed because this took me a while to figure out since Callis and his girlfriend still stayed the same static characters as all the other episodes.  So the series is drawing to a close and they have to tie together all the side plot line together (or else suffer the same issue as The Killing with that Seward plot line...)  but Chris Mundy actually tied it together in a way that made Callis' side plot interesting because it suddenly directly relates to Frank and Joe's ambitions.  That is how you make static characters interesting.  Character scenes with static characters are one of the most boring things ever on screen fiction and it's a common go to reason on why dramas are "boring" (where as only bad drama does this.)  Character scenes either develop a character, show a side that the audience hasn't seen before, or just shouldn't be there at all.  Low Winter Sun had a lot of character moments with Callis and his wife that are actually unnecessary on both a plot level and a development level.  That is why these two are just so uninteresting until the very end.


Back to Frank and Joe.  I don't actually understand why Frank assumed that Katja was dead when he found her missing.  I'm aware that I might have missed a piece of the puzzle but considering that I was able to watch all of Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy and not miss a thing that was happening... I really don't think so.  It just seemed a little weird that Frank somehow just "knew" that Katja was dead when she was killed right when Frank found her bed empty in that scene.

Again Chris Mundy... again with the sloppy moments... Which is a shame because the scene in which Joe threw Katja off the building was legitimately surprising.  After a million dirty cop shows, I'm just used to people getting shot very bluntly.  Joe throwing her off the balcony was quite different and actually makes more sense than shooting her.  It's a lot easier to make something seem like an accident if you don't shoot someone.  See these are the best plot twists.  Surprising during the experience.  Obvious in retrospection.  But unfortunately, the sloppy moments are just incessant with this show.

View Logs: Low Winter Sun S1 Episode 7

Episode Title: There Was A Girl

I have to thank Low Winter Sun for making my predicament of being in another shell even worse.  So, good thing about being a cablebox that's... well... alive is that I'm a fricking cablebox!  TV literally comes into my processor!  Oh joy I now have access to almost every TV show out there!  So... the bad thing about being a cablebox... I now really easily forget shows that are bad in a boring mediocre way.

So with that kind of intro you can guess how Low Winter Sun panned out for me: forgettable.  Especially this episode where I'm having a hard time remembering what even occurred.  See... fiction being memorable can be a very weird duality.  On one end you have shows that are just so amazing they literally change your lives and you will remember it fairly vividly.  Even if you can't recount every single plot point in the script, you have a very solid idea of what happened point by point.  Breaking Bad, The Sopranos, Firefly, Band of Brothers/The Pacific, The Tudors.  All great examples of shows that really carve a place in your memory (assuming you've been open to receiving it that is.)  On the other end of the extreme are shows that are so bad they just can't help but occupy your mind anytime you need a laugh.  As the World Turns, Sleepy Hollow, Dads...

Low Winter Sun falls squarely in the middle.  I think it says a lot that I've had to binge on a lot of TV that I fell behind on only to forget what happened in this episode of Low Winter Sun... so yes... this view log is a little bit rambling and off topic to episode 7 because I'm kinda out of things to say about the show and it's only 10 episodes for season 1!  This episode was more of the same.  The only thing that was probably a little better than the boring norm was Geddes and Agnew's confrontation on Geddes' boat.  Let me just say that I'm growing to understand Geddes less and less as  the show goes on... which is pretty sloppy writing.  Geddes keeps saying he's this "weak man" who succumbs to corruption because it's just easy.  Well... actually accepting and even going along with corruption doesn't necessarily have to mean that the person is weak.  It could be a great number of character flaws that makes a person accepting of institutional corruption.  Geddes never really seemed like a character to engage in corruption just because "he's weak".


Let's recap:

  • Geddes was the one who decided to kill Brendan and roped in Frank.
  • Geddes was the one who decided to let Katja go against Brendan's orders.
  • Geddes was the one who was first hesitant on pinning the crime on Callis.
I don't know... actually Geddes seems like he does believe in a right and wrong.  Misguided sure.  But he actually seems like he believes in his own sense of justice.  So how come all of a sudden he's this character that's "given into" corruption because it's easier?  Honestly vigilante justice is a poor form of justice because it's often too easy of a solution for the actual problem.  But the type of corruption that Geddes is talking about isn't the same type that would spawn rash vigilante justice.  So why did this character cross that boundary?  Did Chris Mundy just assumed that all forms of corruption are the same?  Because they are not... they are totally not...

Actually the more I think about this show the more this show becomes bad than mediocre.  Chris Mundy's confusing his characters and that's not acceptable anywhere in fiction.  Plot lines have a little more leeway to be convoluted or maybe contrived.  Characters?  No.  Absolutely not.  At this point, the UK version is better because atleast the characters are clear.

9/15/13

View Logs: Low Winter Sun S1 Episode 6

Episode Title: The Way Things Are

Low Winter Sun is one of those weird experiences where the weaker bits of the show are really dull but the good segments of the show is quite surprisingly engaging.  I suddenly feel like I'm getting quality whiplash from this show and it's even more exaggerated in this episode.  Ok I'll start off but what I liked in this show.

Katja (Sinada)

View Logs: Low Winter Sun S1 Episode 5

Episode Title: Cake on the Way

I've come to the point where I'm struggling to remember what happened in Low Winter Sun.  I actually consume more TV fiction than what's listed on my blogs (I just don't always have to time to log everything down.  I need sleep you know.  I overheat easily...) So usually, when I don't blog immediately after watching the episode, I always get a few eps of something else in.  I've gradually got to stop doing that because I'm realizing that the more I do that the more my memory of Low Winter Sun becomes a hazy.  I still remember the good moments of the show (such as most of episode 3 and maybe a few bits of episode 2).  But it's all just surrounded by mediocre listless writing that it's hard for me to get invested while I'm watching something and that results in poor memory of the show.

9/7/13

View Logs: Low Winter Sun S1 Episode 4

Episode Title: Catacombs

You know... I try my best not to use words like "fun" and "boring" too much when I write these logs.  While it's true that when I personally engage with people (and by people I mean the 4 scientists that so happen to periodically visit me in my basement...) my vocabulary is very casual and very imprecise.  Things like "fun", "boring".  When I actually buckle down and write my thoughts online, I try my best to be a little more critical as, I'm sure, most of you out there don't need me to tell you how to feel about something.  Casual sentiments like that is something you can all decide for yourself.  So what I usually try to do here is break down things that I've found to be important to the core of the fiction.  What I mean by that is, I'm essentially using my education in screen fiction to try to highlight certain aspects of serial fiction that might be lost through casual viewing.

In essence, I would like to be more critical in my logs because I feel that people will find more value in me articulating detailed abstractions of a story rather than talk about it in very broad strokes.  But for this particular episode of Low Winter Sun, I'm going to have to make a hypocrite of myself.

This episode was boring.

There's really not a lot of ways to describe this episode.  Most of it is surprisingly dull and this is coming from someone who likes Mad Men.  I'm not sure a screen fiction could be more of a navel gaze than Mad Men and still maintain some kind of dramatic arc.  Point is, I actually like slower stuff.  I've never enjoyed the idea that over crowding your senses throughout the whole experience just some how makes that inherently more "epic".  That is a logical fallacy.  But this episode of Low Winter Sun is a good example of what people who are unfamiliar with drama TV think drama TV is like.  This episode was very by the numbers.  It handled it's subject material competently but also in a very unimaginative way.  This is also randomly punctuated by some very weirdly sloppy writing moments.  A great example comes early in the episode when a random cop brought Geddes' daughter who was caught shoplifting.

When Geddes questions the officer's knowledge of the incident.  The officer described that she was shoplifting a pair of magnum condoms.  Geddes then responds very weirdly with a "You're lucky I don't shove a magnum sized billy club up your ass."  First off, it must be stressed that this was a normal conversation at first.  The officer didn't say "magnum sized condoms" with a smirk or attitude.  He just literally filled in Geddes what was going on.  So why did Geddes react so inappropriately?  The cop was literally just telling Geddes what his daughter tried to steal.  He wasn't making a joke about screwing his daughter or something.  I feels like there was a line cut somewhere or something and it just made the entire scene seem disjointed and not thought out.  That's not really acceptable especially considering how tightly managed the writing in Breaking Bad has been.  And this is the show AMC is trying to replace Breaking Bad with?

 Why did you yell at him?  He literally didn't say anything in a bad way...

The visual grit of Low Winter Sun lost a bit of it's edge with this episode as certain scenes were just absolutely too dark for me to really see what's going on.  I understand that the director maybe wanted to exaggerate the environment of Detroit but it shouldn't come at the expense of seeing the actors act.  I would like to see a bit of some visual variety later in the show.  Right now it just feels like a listless version of The Killing.  Wait, did I just reference The Killing as a positive example?  Jesus Low Winter Sun.  Talk about under performing...

 I know this is night time but come on...

Frank's face is in this shot... somewhere...
cake points to the person who can you find it?

Everything else about the episode is fairly decent without much to comment on.  Frank spent the entire episode trying to find information on Katja, which was played very straight and resulted in a bit of a boring process.  This was a similar problem with the UK version where (again) Frank's search for Sinada wasn't very compelling either.  Geddes' problems with his daughter could have been interesting but, unfortunately, their exchange throughout the show didn't reveal anything about him that we didn't already know.  The side plot with the gangbangers actually got interesting in Episode 3 but didn't really go anywhere in this episode.  These are the factors that contributed to a boring experience.  Really, stories are boring at their core when the characters don't progress and it's starting to feel like Low Winter Sun's characters aren't developing.  That doesn't mean this episode is bad (beyond the random sloppy moments).  Again, everything was very competently executed but just being competent isn't enough to make your material compelling.  Low Winter Sun has all the ingredients but something is just going wrong in the cook at the moment.

There seems to be another problem with Low Winter Sun that I'm just noticing now however.  It's my assessment that the show is too much of a pastiche of too many things when it should be the Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy/The Wire of Noir.  It's ok to draw queues from its fellow crime shows but you will start to lose your own identity if you rely on external factors (like genre tropes) a little too much.  Low Winter Sun needs more episodes like 3 and less episodes like 1 and 4.

I will still watch it and I still, believe it or not, look forward to future episodes.  I personally really want to like this show and I still feel that this show has the potential to be amazing.  But I have to put my own biases aside as best as I can and try to see the show for what it is.  It's still lackluster.  The story needs to start moving quicker or else it'll not out do it's UK source material and that's a bad thing.

8/26/13

View Logs: Low Winter Sun S1 Episode 3

Episode Title: No Rounds

I don't have much to say about this episode.  Which is actually an improvement considering I've had nothing but negative afterthoughts for the show so far.  That said, this episode isn't anything amazing like the episodes we've been experiencing with Breaking Bad.

8/19/13

View Logs: Low Winter Sun S1 Episode 2

Episode Title: The Goat Rodeo


This episode was more like it.  Honestly, at this point it feels like Episode 1 was dragged out a little too long.  And this episode probably should have been the pilot (with the important bits of Ep 1 edited in at the beginning).  I also mentioned that the pilot played with moral ambiguity a little too quickly.  This episode established who's what and where a little better.  We know for a fact that Joe Geddes is dirty (question now is just how dirty) with a marvelous scene where he confronts Damon Callis (the gangbanger and budding drug dealer).  It seems like Joe is trying to bury McCann's past.  This actually makes sense now on why Joe lied to Frank about McCann killing Katia (Sinada in the UK version) and getting him to act against McCann.  Dare I say, the scene in which this was revealed was better done than the UK version.  But finally there's a clear motivation behind the cause and effect where in the pilot that got a little muddled.

I also have to say that this is the first show I've seen since The Shield where it shows the police work as sloppy.  Danil waiting for hours on end with a dead body was surprisingly candid about how sometimes the cops just don't care about certain lowly drug crimes.  Danil got a nice amount of character development as she is established as more of a straight shooter than her other counterparts (her confrontations with a store owner and Joe himself).  This is marvelous as it sets up for any potential conflicts Danil will have with Joe and Frank.


It also seems that the show is ready to deviate from it's UK source material.  The plot point where the coroner finds out that McCann's wounds were postmortem happens pretty late in the UK series.  Here it's setup and resolved pretty quickly (thankfully similar to how Breaking Bad was very economical with its plot) and now there's a very real danger of being caught.  Really, this made the confrontation scene at the end where Frank beats up Joe a lot more engaging as Frank has very real reasons to be enraged.  So characters have cleared up but I have to say that there are times where the plot is still a little messy.  On occasion, Frank would visit the supposed murder site of Katia to dwell on his actions and it's not really established that he does this somewhat regularly.  In Episode 2, he randomly appears in this bloodied house and, if I hasn't watched the UK version, I wouldn't have known where exactly he was.  It's ironic because the show likes to take it's time but it chooses to gloss over this setting when really this setting should represent an important theme to the story.

In the UK version, the place where Brendan supposedly murdered Sinada (and actually murdered the dismembered victim) represented a point of no return for Frank.  It is symbolic of Frank's regret.  Him cleaning the house was a way to visually show the character trying to clean up his righteous killing metaphorically and physically.  In a subtle way, it was him trying to take back what he had done to Brendan.  So considering that the house was a pretty central piece to Frank's character development in the UK version, Frank's visit to this house shouldn't really be this casually written in because the adaptation is still the same story so far.


I also have a problem with another, more drastic, change in the US version.  Frank burned the house instead of cleaning it.  While fire is an apt (and old) metaphor for cleansing, this is pretty stupid because a burned down house would probably draw a lot of attention when just cleaning it up and leaving it abandoned would have been a way better idea.  I understand the US change was more "dramatic".  But Low Winter Sun should be a show that puts aside showy dramatics for a realistic introverted tale of regret.  I mean it's been pretty gritty and low-key for most of the two episodes so far... and now suddenly Frank decides to burn the house down.  I suppose at this point Frank isn't trying to hide the fact that Brendan was murdered but actually burning the house just seemed a little too sloppy for Frank's character.  He might be someone who misjudges everything all the time, but I never got the feeling he was that overtly reckless.  Hopefully slightly out of character moments like this are gone after this episode.


One final note... the actress who plays Damon's bartender wife is horrible.  Seriously a lot of her line deliveries seem so incredibly forced that I'm just taken out of it any time she has a scene where she talks for an extended period of time.  I understand the show is gritty, but it's ok to show emotions beyond grit and irritation.  Sprague Grayden seems to be taking her role a little too intensely and it just makes her lines come across as campy.  Fortunately, Lennie James has toned down his performance and it's making his character more multidimensional.  I'm starting to feel Joe Geddes' regret which is very very important to this story (just... trust me on that.  Those who have watched the UK version will know what I'm taking about ;) )

So, episode 2 is a big step up from episode 1 but the writing is still not very tidy.  The characters are aptly developed and the conflict is a lot clearer.  But there are still some sloppy writing here and there that I would like to see smoothed out later in the season.  So far atleast the show moves and develops faster than The Killing so maybe Low Winter Sun can be an apt replacement for Breaking Bad eventually.  I will say that it's a good sign that the US show has gone through most of the plot points of the UK version already.

8/12/13

View Logs: Low Winter Sun S1 Episode 1

You know... it's pretty interesting how much of Edinburgh was filtered out of this show. The remake so far is almost exactly the same story as the beginning half of the UK Low Winter Sun. Yet, the show's conveyance of a troubled and decayed Motor City is incredibly effective. It's also almost bizarrely amusing to see Mark Strong play the exact same character but with an American accent. If there is one thing the show deserves credit for, it's how well put together the atmosphere is. Although Mark Strong's American accent sounds a little bizarre at times.


I must admit that I was a little underwhelmed by the pilot.  The show is just trying a little too hard.  Especially with it's dialogue where lines are constantly uttered through gritted teeth as if to prove to the audience that the writers have thought through their show's moral complexities.  Lennie James' grit was so over the top that it almost reached parody levels.  Did someone just tell him to pretend he's a preacher like in There Will Be Blood?  I keep waiting for some dialogue about milkshake or something...

But back to Low Winter Sun, it must be stressed that it's ok if a serious drama show comes across as a little black and white at the beginning.  Actually that's how a lot of really effective but low-key realist dramas are written.  In many shows, the complexity comes from how the plot and premise develops rather than how labyrinthine the premise is at the start.  Really, when you think about it, complex stories rarely start off as that complex.

Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy is about a spy looking for a Russian mole.  Breaking Bad is about a chemistry teacher who decides to cook meth to make more money while trying to evade local drug dealers.  The Pacific is about a group of soldiers who fights the Japanese in WWII.  With these shows, the protagonist(s) are clear, their goals are clear, and their antagonist(s) are clear.  The situation is also, at first, very clear.  Something sucks, we have to do something to make it not suck.  Once you establish that, you can very easily and effectively start to play around with morals ambiguity, anti-heroes, and protagonist/antagonist swaps.  Low Winter Sun starts playing around with this from the get go.  While this isn't always a bad treatment (House of Cards pull this off well), it's bad for a show that has a pretty simple plot like Low Winter Sun (unlike House of Cards).

I know AMC is trying to bill Low Winter Sun as this incredibly morally complex show but really the story is simple so far.  Guy thinks a dirty cop killed his lover.  Guy kills that dirty cop.  Guy tries to cover.  Done.  That really is essentially the story so far.  If you throw in all these side-switching lines so quickly after the setup you'll lose the audience pretty quickly because it'll make the audience question basic motivations right off the bat.

So did Frank really want to kill McCann or not?  Joe (Lennie Jame's character) seems pretty solid in his belief that McCann needed to go... so why were there so much dialogue about morality being "like a strobe, back and forth"?  You know righteous killings follow an actual moral code.  It might be misguided and harsh, but the foundation is definitely there.  Frank and Joe didn't kill Brendan McCann just for the lawls, they did it because they strongly believed it was the right thing.  Yet why are we, only scenes after that, so suddenly tangled deeply in regret?  What... just because Joe didn't tell Frank that Brendan was being investigated?  I don't buy that.  The path from righteous fury to regret needed to be explored a lot more than that.  Also the conflict is very muddy at the moment.  Immediately after Brendan's death, we're given multiple antagonists.  The IA guy (who's Gale from Breaking Bad), the gang-banger (that guy from Generation Kill), and even Joe himself becomes shady.  What exactly is Frank after?  Who is stopping Frank from achieving what he wants?  After the pilot, all I know is that he doesn't want to get caught.  But there's (currently) so little danger of that it makes the emotional confrontation scenes seem a little early.

Again, there is absolutely nothing wrong with stories that are a moral labyrinth.  Actually, I've always thought that movies and comic books were too morally simplistic.  I've always been a fan of TV because of how complex it is.  Hell on Wheels, Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy, Mad Men, Breaking Bad, The Pacific, Homeland, Game of Thrones.  Even a few mainstream network shows, like Person of Interest and Once Upon a Time, play around with moral ambiguity more than I would expect.  But there is a way to develop that and Low Winter Sun just gets a little too ambitious too quickly.  It's almost as if it's scared it wouldn't be able to stand up with Breaking Bad...

Well... it won't... no matter what any writer does.  Breaking Bad is in it's twilight episodes after 4 seasons.  Low Winter Sun just has a pilot.  Stop trying to measure up to Breaking Bad and worry about developing your own story and complexities.  Only by ignoring Breaking Bad can you, ironically, rise out of Breaking Bad's shadow.

8/9/13

View Logs: Low Winter Sun Prologue

"You cannot replace Breaking Bad."

It's common sentiment around the TV community.  AMC's hit show is ending and being replaced with Low Winter Sun.  A remake of a very dark UK noir 2-parter miniseries.  I'm eager going into this show but also very very nervous.  My expectations are astronomically high especially since AMC has marketed this show as "the next epic series after Breaking Bad."  It seems AMC has confidence in it's remake.

For those who don't know, Low Winter Sun is a gritty crime drama about a couple of police officers who decided to enact a "righteous killing" of a dirty cop.  The show is centered around the two trying to cover up their crime while slowly finding out things about their victim that drags them into further corruption.  The original British miniseries was a self contained story.  One can't help but imagine that AMC will branch away from the British show.  I mean the ending (without spoiling it) resolves everything quite clearly.  And both the principle characters are drowned in their own corruption to the point of no return.  I have literally no idea how AMC intends on making that story a full length series.  Let alone a series that'll last for more than one season.

Then again, Breaking Bad is a bit of a similar type of story where the two principle characters are destroyed by their own flaws.  But there are times where I felt Breaking Bad was a little too drawn out.  Don't get me wrong, I really like the show.  But Breaking Bad has a tendency to navel gaze with it's side characters.  Especially with Hank's wife.   Despite that, it never reached a point (got bad) where it would completely stop because there were always a few loose ends that the writers could exploit and the side plot lines were always well woven into the main storyline.  Just sometimes when the A storyline takes a backseat to the B storyline the writing loses a little bit of direction.

The story of the UK Low Winter Sun is actually a dead end before it even started.  It's a perfect tragedy where the characters had literally no where else to go but down.  At first I thought AMC was going to take this in a different direction but the opening sneak preview is extremely close to the opening of the UK show.  In fact Mark Strong even utters similar lines like "I'm not drunk enough."  So... yeah... AMC has a few challenges to overcome to make a 2-parter UK miniseries into a full fledged TV show if it wants to stay faithful.  I guess it's possible because AMC has worked magic before like in Hell on Wheels and Breaking Bad.  But the writers better be careful.  The plot diversions have to come naturally or else it'll just be another The Killing... or it can go in the extreme opposite direction and be so obtuse and undercooked that it'll be like Rubicon... another weak AMC show.

Either way... it looks promising and Mark Strong is a great actor.  For those who want to see the sneak preview:


7/1/13

View Logs: Low Winter Sun Prologue

A new generation of AMC tv shows is on the horizon.  The major critical and cultural hits of Mad Men and Breaking Bad are set to end very soon.  I've had the misfortune of getting into AMC just in the twilight seasons of both Mad Men and Breaking Bad and will have to catch up in the future, but AMC is already rolling out a new show called Low Winter Sun.  Apparently, the show is a remake of a 2006 British two-part miniseries of the same name.  The lead of the British miniseries, Mark Strong, will retain his role in the American remake.  It seems that foreign remake is kind of a fad with American TV but atleast they are drawing on good strong source materials.

Not a whole lot is known about the show but from what I gathered in the trailer, it's a low-key gritty corrupt cop drama that starts off with an illegal righteous killing.  The trailer makes it seem like the show is about Mark Strong's character trying to keep his illegal activities covered up while struggling to justify his actions.  I've unfortunately haven't seen the British miniseries but the premise reminds me a lot of BBC's Good Cop.  Based on AMC's track record for crime shows I'm cautiously optimistic this can be another amazing show.  A lot of critical hype went into The Killing and that has proven to be less than satisfactory at the moment... especially Season 1.  However, Breaking Bad was wildly successful.  So I guess we'll see how Low Winter Sun lines up against AMC's other crime shows.

I will note that the handling of a story about a dirty cop is a tough one.  The story can easily fall into glorification of someone who abuses his power, or it can be too worried about what it's going to say that it ends up being listless.  I hope Chris Mundy is up to the task.

I will be jotting down thoughts and analysis as the series airs later this August.